Tuesday, 4 September 2007

Where do the boundaries of the mind end?

In the previous blog I discussed the idea that dualism was flawed and that some form of monism provided a much more satisfactory explanation of the ontology of the physical and the mental. According to this monist view, there is only one reality. Physicalists like to call it the physical and deny the mental altogether. I tend to avoid this and stick to the idea that there really is only one reality, its just when talking about it, or indeed practising Cognitive Science there are multiple levels of analysis that need to be accounted for in order to provide a satisfactory account; physical, phenomenal, functional, etc.

Now the immediate answer that most give as to where the boundaries of the mind end is that the boundaries lie within the skin. Since Turing’s work on computation and the invention of the digital computer there has been an analogy in Cognitive Science of something like, mindware is to brain as software is to hardware. In other words the workings of the human mind is like the software in a computer. The brain of course being the biological computer and its program being the mind. This of course is not to be taken too literally in a dualist sense. We are talking of studying mindware scientifically as a process that occurs in the brain not as some extra mental stuff. That aside; from this we should try to make computational models that correlate with the physical interactions in the brain. If we are successful we will have explained mindware.

There have been numerous attempts over the year to theorize and build computational models of the brain/mind, frequently with the help from AI simulations. Good old fashioned AI (GOFAI) followed Newell and Simon’s Physical Symbol System theory. The idea is a physical device that contains a set of symbols with combinable properties and a set of operations used to manipulate those symbols according to rules. The attractions of this were clear as folk psychological terms such as beliefs could be clearly implemented, actually becoming symbols in the computational models. Thus thought could be naturalized. However the biological implementation of such models was never clear and many researchers rejected it as a realistic model of human cognition.

In the 80s a new wave of computational theorists known as connectionists emerged. Their models were analogous to real human brain neural networks (although far simpler). Artificial neural networks consisted of simple nodes (like neural cells) linked in parallel interacting with higher levels via simple connection weights (like axons and dendrites). Units received input and passed their weights to higher levels (like electrochemical impulses). Today’s models have incorporated realistic temporal and biological features such as salient time delays and deliberate noise. There’s a lot to say about connectionism, and it definitely seems to provide a far more accurate model of computation in the brain, but I’ll leave it at that for the sake of this blog. No doubt with the huge growth in computer IP capacity we will see even more realistic models in the future alongside neuroscientific research.

However it seems that if we are to take a monist approach and perhaps even we don’t, the processes under study should leave the skin. The previous models mentioned above all missed a key factor in their research: “Embodiment”. Human brains are situated in a body that, with the help of a nervous system and sensory apparatus, takes in real world input and causally interacts with the external physical world. More recently then researchers have put focus on the interactions of brain, body and environment. The idea is that intelligent systems often don’t have to go through such rigours higher cognition of assessing the problem, weighing up the alternatives, working out the values, doing the calculations and then getting the answer; in order to achieve a goal. Most of the time such processes become automated in the dynamic reactions between body (from here on in this includes the brain and nervous system) and environment. Could it be possible that much of our incredibly complex behaviour is facilitated by lots and lots of very simple interactions between and within the body and the environment? Well dynamic system theorists argue so and that’s where much research is taking place currently with help from robotics and artificial life projects.

If we look at motor skills such as walking or throwing a ball it’s fairly clear to see how this is the case, and motor skill theory is no new thing. Take catching a ball; the ball comes towards the person, the visual system tracks it, sends a signal to a low level processing area of the visual cortex which unconsciously processes information and relays the signal to the arm and hand muscles which perfectly coordinate and the ball is caught. We all take such a process for granted but really it’s quite incredible how a collection of such simple processes can produce the result of a ball at 20 mph being caught out of the air. We can at least however understand how this all works in principle.

However what are the implications of such an extended theory of mind on higher cognition?

One of the most interesting I think is that when studying cognition we shouldn’t just look at brain computation, but we should take into account cognitive technology. Today we are immersed in a world of computers, mobile phones, etc. Through these cognitive tools we are able to solve tasks with incredible more efficiency than we could without. Think of the internet. Right now if you wanted to find out how to get somewhere you could open up Google and type your destination in or look it up on trainlink, or whatever. You would have the answer in a matter of seconds. 15 years ago you would have had to look up some numbers in the phone book, dialled the number on a landline probably which may or may not be near you, spoken to the operator or whatever and then that might have only been one part of your journey, etc. 150 years ago you might have to go down the road and find someone who knew how to get there, find someone else who could transport you there, etc. 1000 years ago… well you get the picture.

The idea is that as technology evolves so does our cognition and our ability to process information efficiently. It probably isn’t going to that long till we all have decent internet on our phones, thus when you’re in the middle of town and you want to know somthing you can just get your mobile out, open Google, search and there you go. The interesting question follows: Does the internet (which you now always have near immediate access to) count as part of your mind or at least your knowledge base. Most of course would answer no, just as they wouldn’t count a bit of paper with a number on it as part of your mind.

However yet further into the future there’s a good chance that people will be able to get chips in their brain that wires them up to the internet so they have immediate access at any time. It sounds like the stuff of science fiction, but I don’t think it can be ruled out. It’s certainly possible in principle and as technology evolves so will society’s values and thus it may well gain acceptance. Even if it never happens, the thought experiment is still there. Does the knowledge on the internet count as yours; does your mind extend into it? It’s hard to argue no unless you say the mind is only linked to the biological brain or you believe in a soul. Such a situation would mean you had the same instant access to information on the internet as you did with your biological brain. Such an invention, to coin a Jungian term, might well lead to an “unconscious collective”, or in fact better phrased; a “Conscious Collective”. Of course it may turn out that this never happens or that its impossible, but it does raise a very interesting point on the boundaries of the mind.

11 comments:

Anonymous said...

Note: this comment is part of a discussion my buddy and have been having about the mind and technology.

Not even Andy Clark believes the internet counts as an extension of the mind. Implanting a chip into your head doesn't change the epistemological relations one has to the information in one's environment.

Clark and Chalmers give explicit criteria that specify when an external resource counts as an extension of the mind. They call it the parity principle:

"If, as we confront some task, a part of the world functions as a process which, were it to go on in the head, we would have no hesitation in accepting as part of the cognitive process, then that part of the world is (for that time) part of the cognitive process."

In other words, not everything that is functionally identical to mindware counts as a mind extension. It has to be primed for use in just the right way. Otto's notebook counts as memory not just because it store information functionally similar to his biological memory. In fact, the notebook isn't really functionally identical to his biological memory at all. But it counts as a mind extension because Otto automatically consults in in normal circumstances, and immediately accepts the information stored there, and these epistemological and phenomenological relationships are identical to Inga's use of her biological memory.

So yeah, if someone gets Alzheimer's disease, it is little consolation to hand them a notebook and say "you'll be fine". That's because the person isn't used to using a notebook as an extension of their mind.

But consider the opposite case, for instance when you lose your cell phone, or your computer breaks, and how helpless you feel without it. That feeling is roughly analogous to situations when people lose their memory, or a limb, because they understand their world in terms of having those resources constantly available for use.

In other words, I think your objections completely miss the point of the extended mind.

Jack J said...

well i hav read Clark's paper "the extended mind" but its been a while. I agree Otto's notebook is only partly an extension of mind. i.e. only when present and even then because it dosn't have the same speed of access the issue is dubious. However if a chip connected to the brain was wired to the internet, so instant access of it was possible and so in some sense one had a direct phenomenal experience of it (who knows: maby you would hear a voice in your head or somthing similar) then its hard to see how this wouldn't be an extension of your mind. You would experience it like your own mind and have the same access to it (within reason) to your own brain. the only main difference would be its non-biological medium for implimentation. Again its all very theoretical, but I think in fact Clark would agree.

Anonymous said...

Its not just the speed of access that matters. The epistemological relationship also matters. When Clark and Chalmers elaborate on the parity principle, they include the (now controversial) criteria of immediate endorsement:

"That any information thus retrieved be more-or-less automatically endorsed. It should not usually be subject to critical scrutiny (unlike the opinions of other people, for example). It should be deemed about as trustworthy as something retrieved clearly from biological memory."

The information I get from the internet, though poised for easy access, is usually subject to a great deal of scrutiny and skepticism that doesn't accompany my access to biological memory.

It might be a good idea to read the original extended mind paper and Clark's recent addendum, The Extended Mind, Extended

Lets hope I didn't mess the tags up this time. :)

Jack J said...

I read and studied it last year. That aside anyway, whether Clark argrees or dosn't... All our information that we gain from biological memory no matter how clear it is, is a perspective of one sort or the other. If our brains were wired up to the net in such a way that we directly perceived information maby as I propose "a voice in the head" I fail to see what the difference would be. Its all a bit sketchy anyway since we have no way of knowing what it actually would be like, but the way I see it, I see very little difference.

Jack J said...

To ellaborate say Im thinking somthing like, how much is a can of drink; I can access that easily and come up with somthing like 60p, but I could well be wrong about my own memory (in this case its highly unlikely. So your own memory is still under the same scrutiny of skeptisism as any internet site that quotes a price. If this whole wiring up to the net through the brain is possible and is actualized and the access to it is somthing like a voice in the head then once again I state I fail to see any significant difference. The phenomenal experience of it might well be just like hearing a fact in our heads from biological memory.

ericswan said...

Not all parts of the body are within your skin and from my point of view, that would include the brain. Did we evolve from flagella? I wonder if they had a brain? If you confer upon the brain the concept of perception, then you must confer upon the flagelli as being a part of the brain. This translates into our "hair" as being part of our brain. Culturally speaking, head covering is hair covering. Samson derived strength from his hair and the hair stands up on the back of my neck when I have precog experiences. Hair is associated with the other five senses or at least in close proximity with brows, nose hair, ear etc. If we evolved out of the water, hair would be livlier than it is on dry land. In short, there is no way to exclude hair when considering where and to what extent the brain is contained.

Anonymous said...

Jack,

Point 1. have you even wondered that an involution of the brains basic processing mechanisms, whether they be connectionist based or homunculi based, can help explain the rise of the mind and help explain a monist interpretation?

Point 2. One has to consider that humans animals and all kind of complex automatons, if I may use the word, will need to and have use for both kinds of control structures to coexist, a local control and a mediated centralised control. Such dual controls can work well in both cooperative and centralised control environments if control devolution were based on time and costs.

For instance take a large company like say IBM. If a local office needed to restock paper for printing, it would be more economical to purchase it locally rather than take a circuitous route of going via central purchase department.

If one posits a similar kind of cost based choice on nervous system networks and processing, one can perhaps better explain a lot of our actions and decisions.

The basic learning and response mechanism which can operate well even without mental intereference, like say during walking would run on auto, while it can be controlled consciously too.

one of the factors we forget during such discussions is that the learning system of both man and all of nature must have also undergone an evolutionary process.

One therefore would find a better guide if one tries to posit the reasons behind man gaining a mind like mechanism. How does the presence of such a mechanism aid evolution or did it emerge out of serendipity?

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Jack J said...

ericswan im not sure i see where u coming from at all? What do you mean hair is part of the brain??? no its not! its part of the body, but its not part of the brain.

Samson derived strength from his hair??? What??? I wouldn't take that any further than in a metaphorical sense.

Jack J said...

I certainly agree that we should take into account evolution for mind like mechanisms. Mind like mechanisms certainly helped the organism to survive. The brain is an organ that processes information about a system and its environment. To say it evolved through serendepity is ridicuulous thats fo sure. How would such a complex IP unit evolve by accident. The probability is so low its worth forgetting. Clearly the brain and mindware has a function for survival.

in response to point 1. of course learning about how the brain processes info can explain the mind. thats what half of cognitive science is about. this blog however was made to point out that we somtimes need to look at processes outside the brain to get the full picture.

in response to point 2, I think your talking about skill theory. The idea that much processing need not be conscious, it can be quite hardwired into the system. Again relation of environment and body is very important since much of the actual brain processing is comparitively simple.

Anonymous said...

to point some in their direction. how is life said to be lived in the first place. i can compare my self to a piece of grass laying in a field with nothing but sun light. awaiting for that leaf to blanket me. if it so chooses. but with out purpose that leaf blows my way. some where someone is getting somewhere. stepping on the little guy. now for we all getting places, over all in global projects are we all stepping on our selfs? its not the room of uncomfort its the voice. not emotion thats brought to attention. how is emotion brought to our attention with out tention. getting rid of the tension proves we can get rid of the chain that holds the basic time schedual and suffocation of others. the devil that creeps in minds for all of hate. grow as a tree but taller. fly higher than the moon. now no one knows no higher cause of false ideas brought to voice to bring down. if some how we can use and stabelize our emotion to excerp to reality life as we know it, will have no boudries. no secrates. if we grow arent we grass just waiting to be cut. or is their a hole to the future. my stomach hurts im hungry. the grass needs water and seeds need a shell. what is our galaxies shell.

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